Copied your request and added the request for perpetual license and a better installer. But to temper your expectations, I have made feature requests and bug reports since CS5 that still have not been fulfilled. ... View more

Joe, I've known Mark for ages, so it seems, and he really is a superb guy, some who know him would call him a 'Serious Magician' but that is getting almost too personal. I feel for all the really nice Adobe people that are more or less 'regulars' here and bear the brunt of our discomfort and complaints. It is not their doing, but they carry the burden. I certainly don't envy their position, but what can they do...? ... View more

Please keep in mind that: Mark is a great guy who cares deeply for us, customers, Mark is bound by what people above his pay-grade decide, Mark understands our (clients) situation, but his hands are tied. ... View more

Then you can leave it there, or you can uninstall Premiere Pro CS6 leaving Encore CS6 in place. How can one uninstall everyting CSx related but keep Encore CSx installed, including the functional content? Oh, while we are on the subject, how can one uninstall all the crap in 44 languages in the legal and OBL directories for each and every application in CC, that take up around 2 GB of utterly wasted space? ... View more

See Who to believe? Jim, you realize that the Dynamic Link to Encore is no longer available, that everybody who uses CC and does not have Encore from a previous version is f*cked, That everybody who uses CC and does not feel comfortable with setting their encoding parameters manually is seriously f*ucked? That it precludes everyone from uninstalling CSx if they want to deliver on BDR or DVD? ... View more

Run as an administrator with full access rights and disable anti-whatever first. ... View more

None. ... View more

You don't understand, it seems. XDCAM-EX records everything to SxS cards, that contain one BPAV directory, which contains numerous sub-directories. After having copied the complete BPAV directory to hard disk, you go to Media Browser and import all the .MP4 clips. PR is clever enough to find the audio that belongs to each of these clips and the metadata and import that as well. If they have a .MOV extension it is no longer the original material, it has been modified by FCP and probably changed to an intermediate format. ... View more

Conclusion is clear: This is not original material, so follow Jim's advise in post # 1. ... View more

I'll probably stick with the perpetual license of Master Collection CS6. ... View more

"...through discussions with the community, we have heard some concerns around our move to Creative Cloud...We want to start off by reinforcing that we continue to believe that the move to Creative Cloud will benefit the wider creative community because of the constant stream of innovation that we’re able to deliver." Constant? Like bugs in CS5, that were not solved in CS5.5, that were deferred to CS Next when CS6 came out, that are still deferred to CC Next, but still not solved in CC7? Where is that stream of innovation? In CC12? OK, I see it: that we're able to deliver... which is quite different from that we will deliver... The road to hell is paved with good intentions. ... View more

Both are overkill and a waste of money. I said it before, the GTX 650 Ti Boost is the best with those components. ... View more

Only things that I would change are: Video card. The K2000 is underpowered and overpriced. PSU. Get at least a Gold label PSU. CPU cooler. Get a CoolerMaster H212 EVO with push-pull fans. Disk setup. Get a couple more disks. One will not do. SSD. Get the Samsung 840 Pro. Case. Get a max tower, and leave the rest as chosen. You probably haven't read the previous links or posts. After these changes, you may end up with an entry level 'professional' editing system, in the current configuration it is a handicapped game system. ... View more

Fair trade is what happens when a product is offered for sale and purchased by people willing to pay the price. What is fair is allowing a customer to buy a product or service, at the agreed price, but not exclude that opportunity for the simple reason they do not have a US credit card. That makes it unfair. That makes them pay around 35% more and can be considered a form of discrimination. ... View more

Maybe Marketing and Accounting should read Price Elasticity of Demand and realize that CC is not a Veblen good or service. ... View more

Jim, You don't seem to get my argument. Whether that is obtuseness, or something else, I don't know, but here is an example how this scenario works out, based on the tax-treaty with the Netherlands and based on current offerings: CC Sold in: Adobe US Sales price Adobe cost price Transfer price to Europe Customer End Price Excl. Local Taxes Local Taxes for Adobe on profits US Corporate Taxes Gross Profit after taxes Europe $ 100 $ 50 $ 65 $ 135 25% over $ 70 35% over $ 15 $ 62.25 US $ 100 $ 50 NA $ 100 NA 35% over $ 50 $ 32.50 Legally, there is nothing wrong with an internal transfer price of $ 65, when the cost price is $ 50. But you can see that the profit margin after taxes almost doubles for Adobe. Highly attractive for them, but European customers pay around 35% more than US/Canadian/Australian/NZ or South African inhabitants and at the same time Adobe profits significantly from the current tax-treaties. I could even make a comparison when I make assumptions about these internal transfer prices to different European countries which will show even far greater benefits for Adobe. This has nothing to do with rental versus perpetual licenses, it is only about fair trade and fair prices. ... View more

Stan, You are correct, I referred to Steve Hoeg. Sorry for the misspelling. ... View more

The original question posed by this thread is entirely about the availability of updates. It has nothing to do with contrasting price models in different countries, if you wish to debate that I suggest you begin a new thread or we'll get into a three-way argument. Neither is this a topic about whether CC is a good or bad idea, financially or morally. Plenty of other threads for discussing that! You don't seem to grasp that availability of updates is directly related to 'value for money'. If there are no relevant updates, it is not worth the money, If Adobe has proven to be rather lackluster in their updates, the implicit question is, what makes the new model so much more attractive? As a paying customer, I want to see my money's worth. I have historically not seen anything but bug fixes in point releases. The question is what will change to give me more BFTB or am I only discriminated by Adobe based on the country I live in, without anything essential changing? The original question is what do I get EXTRA that could not be delivered with the perpetual license and why? Steven made an effort to explain that and I appreciate his effort, but that still leaves a lot of questions unanswered. If you prefer to make that a separate issue and thread, go ahead and move this post to a new topic or get someone else do it for you, I don't care. I do object to the way you circumvent the issues I raised, but maybe you will reply to-the-point if and when this is made a separate topic. I will not, since it would be double posting, something that - as you should know - if frowned upon. Pr CS6 has some 'issues' which on a practicable level will only be resolved in CC, simply because of the amount of work involved - and that really annoys people. Subscription means that those 'major fixes' will be released a lot faster, as engineering will be working to a rolling timetable, and people will get them free no matter how much work is involved. That sounds pretty optimistic. If a number of my bug reports have been referred to CS Next, or CC Future, it means that they are postponed till a new version arrives. Some of these bugs date back to CS5 and have not been solved but deferred to CC8 or whatever comes out after CC7, maybe because they were difficult to solve, but the new model does not make it easier to solve them, it will still require lots of effort to correct them. I can't share your optimism that these 'major fixes' will be released a lot faster.  Bugs that exist in CS5, that have not been solved in CS5.5, not in CS6 and still not in CC7 do not bode well for faster solutions. ... View more

Whichever way you turn it, Adobe is in the market to make long term profits for their shareholders. Nothing wrong with that. At least as long as they have customers that are willing to part with money that they feel is well spent on Adobe products. If Adobe lacks clarity in communicating their intents and where the 'value added' is for their customers, who are the generators of the long term profits, everybody loses. Adobe loses customers and thus revenues, customers are disgruntled, market share drops and ultimately shareholders feel they don't get the rewards they expected. OK, Adobe is US based and must adhere to US law. Completely logical. Their development work is done to a large extend in the US (and India for all I know), their CC servers are US based, their distribution is US based, activation servers are US based, their exports are based on US restrictions, in short their stance it that we, the customers, are dealing with a US based company that abides by US laws. That is fair, I think. At least it is very clear. One may wonder whether a different accounting method for perpetual licenses would not have been easier to circumvent the SOX legislation and avoid this outrage, but that is something that all the much appreciated presence of Adobe staff can not alter. Those decisions are all above their pay-grade as they are above mine, but then I'm not a staff member, so that is no surprise. Personally, I think that bug fixes and improving functionality (something that works only partly) of existing products but not adding new functionality is perfectly legal even under current Adobe accounting policies and US law, but, like Steven I'm not a lawyer, nor an accountant. What is more disturbing in my eyes is the fact that Adobe is not clear at all. If everything is based on US rules, regulations, law, accounting principles and other relevant restrictions, why not treat all customers the same as US citizens? Charging them the same prices, giving the same educational benefits, etc. But Adobe does not do that. They overcharge European customers significantly in comparison to US customers, using the excuse of 'the cost of doing business locally'. Well, development, distribution and activation is purely US based, nothing local. So where is the local cost? Is that an Apple like approach, that uses tax treaties and havens to allocate revenues to a local company, lowering corporate taxes and increasing net profit for the shareholders over the back of European customers? In my consulting practice I have seen many US based companies, to whom US law applies, using transfer pricing to lower corporate taxes by diligent use of tax treaties with for instance Ireland, Luxembourg, Switzerland and the Netherlands in a completely legal way (well, sometimes borderline). These actions resulted in a significant boost of the bottom line, sometimes in the tens or even hundreds of millions per year. I suspect Adobe is no different, but that makes it even worse and more bitter for European customers. They get ripped off by Adobe and Adobe profits extra because of the transfer pricing and tax-treaties. I can't substantiate this, but from a business point of view, using these 100% legal loopholes, a company would be crazy not to use them. When a European customer goes to Microsoft, B&H or whatever other US based company, they can use their credit card to pay for the order they place. They don't need a US credit card, but Adobe does not allow that. Is it for the tax reasons mentioned above that a customer can only buy locally from a US based company? On the one hand Adobe claims to be US based and adhering to US laws, but at the same time it hides behind 'local business' for which a completely different set of rules apply. That is not trust inspiring or consequent for me. This leads me to two different requests: Equal pricing excluding local taxes around the globe, since this is a global business, all originating in the US, so pricing should be US based. No discrimination based on very vague arguments that do not hold. CC is a worldwide approach, with development, electronic distribution, electronic activation, electronic payment, electronic updates, everything is done from US based server parks, so there is no argument whatsoever to discriminate based on country of purchase. Create an exit strategy for those customers that can not or will not pay rent anymore to get a perpetual license, not a downgrade to CS6. ... View more

Who has a disk smaller than 80 GB (HDD) or 64 GB (SSD) for OS & programs nowadays? No way you would need more than 50-60 GB for OS & programs even with multiple versions of the Master Collection, unless you have collected a huge amount of garbage, in which case it makes sense to clean up. That makes more sense than de-activating, uninstalling and re-installing on a different drive. ... View more

Speccing out a computer is no rocket science, if fact it is pretty easy if you understand the pro's and con's of each coponent and how they interact with each other. Generally, you start with a budget of $ X. That generally limits your choices to either a 1155 or 2011 platform. Then you choose the motherboard, the most powerful CPU and the maximum memory your budget allows. That usually eats up around 30% of your budget. Then you choose your disk setup, which eats up another 28 - 33% of your budget, then you choose your PSU and case, usually good for another 10 - 15% of your budget. You have now allocated around 75% to these components, so the video card and other components are limited to the remaining $$$. This page shows some examples: The price tag when you scroll down a bit. Your disk setup is way underspecced for a decent system, especially if you want to call it professional, as in your topic description. ... View more

The case is too small. Go for a big tower. The video card is overly expensive and does not deliver a third of the performance of a $ 160 GTX 650 Ti Boost but carries a price tag of around $ 460. Additionally you intentionally cripple the lousy video card performance by another 10 - 15% by adding that LSI controller. The PSU is only bronze label, not gold+. The CPU cooler is only mediocre, the Velociraptors are heat and noise engines. The WD Green is only good for outdoor usage , buried in your lawn, the Corsair fans are pretty noisy, the memory is too costly and don't fit to the CPU in a balanced way, in short this is an ill-configured and lob-sided system. ... View more

Ulf, It was a bit time-consuming, but my approach was to go to the Adobe.com site and look up each price offering they have on the various subscription plans for each of the countries mentioned in the table, including the terms that apply. Then recalculate each local currency to the $ equivalent, based on current exchange rates and next, apply local taxation VAT rates to the calculated prices, so I could calculate monthly rates including and excluding tax. That's all. ... View more